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dread pirate fargus · Aug 30, 2008, 02:26 AM // 02:26

just tried this with the axe warrior variant, an imbagon (who said that his build could be improved greatly), a discord necro (human), and me as a DH monk. didnt bother with signet of infection, i ran LB sig instead which was good, seed of life would also have been very helpful for a couple of parts, specifically the veil. pur imbagon left after city but the build worked very nicely. it wasnt the fastest build i have used but it was very defensive and brilliant for PUGs and people who dont have high-end pve guilds behind them.

thanks again for the build! and i hope to see lots of fun variations!

Sorn Xarann · Aug 30, 2008, 10:22 AM // 10:22

Personally, as a war, I made a build to mimic what the sin is running, the dps is huge, but I haven't tried the Axe, and asuran scan could be Save Yourselves! any day, also prot strike is filler. [build prof=W/D str=14 scythe=12 ][Warrior's Endurance][Mystic Sweep][Eremite's Attack][Protectors Strike][Asuran Scan][Aura of Holy Might (Luxon)]["I Am The Strongest!"][Resurrection Signet] [/build] I was doing 200+ in isle of the nameless, and thats without r8 lb. What do you think?

dark_slayer · Sep 03, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57

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Originally Posted by Sorn Xarann

Personally, as a war, I made a build to mimic what the sin is running, the dps is huge, but I haven't tried the Axe, and asuran scan could be Save Yourselves! any day, also prot strike is filler. [build prof=W/D str=14 scythe=12 ][Warrior's Endurance][Mystic Sweep][Eremite's Attack][Protectors Strike][Asuran Scan][Aura of Holy Might (Luxon)]["I Am The Strongest!"][Resurrection Signet] [/build] I was doing 200+ in isle of the nameless, and thats without r8 lb. What do you think?

Looks good, no need for res tho.

My guild and I are testing a Heroway build to kill Mallyx soon. I will see how it goes, It will probably be 3-5 people and the rest hero's. I will post the build when it is proven to work.

Arsalan · Sep 10, 2008, 04:51 PM // 16:51

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Originally Posted by dark_slayer

Looks good, no need for res tho.

My guild and I are testing a Heroway build to kill Mallyx soon. I will see how it goes, It will probably be 3-5 people and the rest hero's. I will post the build when it is proven to work.

Any update on this :P

fireflyry · Sep 11, 2008, 02:37 AM // 02:37

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Originally Posted by gerg-nad

Most of what I am seeing takes very specific roles and skills, which will be difficult for any PUG team to manage, especially if there are several similar builds that will work.

Which is exactly why team builds like this shine, it involves thought and organization, and the birth of such builds are a great example of the positives the death of Ursan has brought to high-end areas.

Actual experimentation and innovation.

Great job OP.

Cyb3r · Sep 11, 2008, 06:31 AM // 06:31

To the op this is a build i've been using succesfully for a while in HM on my ele

[buildprof=E/N EarthMagic=12+1+1 EnergyStorage=12+1 name="Unsteady Ground Hm V2"][Unsteady Ground][Churning Earth][Eruption][Ward against Foes][Glowstone]["You are all weaklings!"][Necrosis][Earth Attunement][/build]

If you don't have a high enough Norn rank substitute ["You are all weaklings!"] for [Enfeebling [email protected]] lower energy storage to 12 for this

Mr.Kotte · Sep 11, 2008, 11:26 AM // 11:26

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Originally Posted by Cyb3r

To the op this is a build i've been using succesfully for a while in HM on my ele

[buildprof=E/N EarthMagic=12+1+1 EnergyStorage=12+1 name="Unsteady Ground Hm V2"][Unsteady Ground][Churning Earth][Eruption][Ward against Foes][Glowstone]["You are all weaklings!"][Necrosis][Earth Attunement][/build]

You cannot be serious, way too much AoE

Carboplatin · Sep 11, 2008, 04:45 PM // 16:45

The OP is the sin in the pic above.

but anyway, after countless runs, we rarely run the OP's original build. Lately we've been running a variety of different builds, involving mesmers, eles, rangers, and it has worked fine.

our core team usually consist of.

1. A/D
2. P/W
3-4. monks

and the 5,6,7,8 varies. Theres life after ursan, people just have to try it out.

whisper me ingame if you have questions.

dark_slayer · Sep 11, 2008, 05:40 PM // 17:40

Well heres the lowdown on what we have been useing to kill mallyx.
Lately we have been droping more and more heros for people.

[build prof=Assassin/Warrior][Asuran Scan][Golden Fox Strike][Disrupting Stab][Exhausting Assault][Moebius Strike][Death Blossom]["Save Yourselves!"][Lightbringer Signet][/build]
[build prof=Paragon/Warrior][Focused Anger]["Save Yourselves!"]["Go for the Eyes!"][Spear of Lightning][Wild Throw][No Skill][Lightbringer Signet]["There's Nothing to Fear!"][/build]
[build prof=Paragon/Monk][Defensive Anthem][Hexbreaker Aria][No Skill][Spear of Lightning][Wild Throw][Spear of Redemption][Natural Temper][Signet of Return][/build]
[build prof=Elementalist/Mesmer][Mind Blast][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Liquid Flame][Fireball][Lightbringer's Gaze][Meteor Shower][Power Drain][Lightbringer Signet][/build]
[build prof=Mesmer/Monk][Power Return][Power Spike][Power Drain][Lightbringer's Gaze][Energy Burn][Energy Surge][Lightbringer Signet][Resurrection Chant][/build]
[build prof=Necromancer/Monk][Animate Flesh Golem][Animate Vampiric Horror][Animate Bone Minions][Deathly Swarm][Blood of the Master][Plague Sending][Foul Feast][Resurrection Chant][/build]
[build prof=Monk/Ritualist][Divert Hexes][Healing Ribbon][Heal Other][Words of Comfort][Healing Touch][Heal Party][Gaze of Fury][Rebirth][/build]
[build prof=Monk/Elementalist][Word of Healing][Healing Ribbon][Signet of Rejuvenation][Cure Hex][Patient Spirit][Heal Party][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Rebirth][/build]
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If you are runing 3 people and the rest heros i would run something like this

People
[build prof=Assassin/Warrior][Asuran Scan][Golden Fox Strike][Disrupting Stab][Exhausting Assault][Moebius Strike][Death Blossom]["Save Yourselves!"][Lightbringer Signet][/build]
[build prof=Paragon/Warrior][Focused Anger]["Save Yourselves!"]["Go for the Eyes!"][Spear of Lightning][Wild Throw][No Skill][Lightbringer Signet]["There's Nothing to Fear!"][/build]
[build prof=Monk/Elementalist][Divert Hexes][Remove Hex][Healing Ribbon][Heal Other][Healing Touch][Heal Party][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Rebirth][/build]

Heros
[build prof=Necromancer/Monk][Animate Flesh Golem][Animate Vampiric Horror][Animate Bone Minions][Deathly Swarm][Blood of the Master][Plague Sending][Foul Feast][Resurrection Chant][/build]
[build prof=Necromancer/Ritualist][Offering of Spirit][Splinter Weapon][Ancestors' Rage][Spirit Light][Spirit Transfer][Life][Protective Was Kaolai][Flesh of My Flesh][/build]
[build prof=Necromancer/Ritualist][Consume Soul][Signet of Lost Souls][Mend Body and Soul][Spirit Light][Spirit Transfer][Recovery][Protective Was Kaolai][Death Pact Signet][/build]
[build prof=Elementalist/Mesmer][Mind Blast][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Liquid Flame][Fireball][Breath of Fire][Meteor Shower][Power Drain][Leech Signet][/build]
[build prof=Paragon/Monk][Defensive Anthem][Hexbreaker Aria][No Skill][Spear of Lightning][Wild Throw][Spear of Redemption][Natural Temper][Signet of Return][/build]

romeus petrus · Sep 11, 2008, 06:09 PM // 18:09

With an experienced team even full HM run is not that hard or long. We have been running DoA HM on a near daily basis lately. Here's a lil screenie:

Full guild team, no heroes. ( not sure if it is doable with heroes in HM tbh).

Mallyx himself is not that hard if u know how to use the door glitch.

Warriorsrmint · Sep 11, 2008, 06:53 PM // 18:53

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Originally Posted by romeus petrus

With an experienced team even full HM run is not that hard or long. We have been running DoA HM on a near daily basis lately. Here's a lil screenie:

Full guild team, no heroes. ( not sure if it is doable with heroes in HM tbh).

Mallyx himself is not that hard if u know how to use the door glitch.

Isn't that kinda what got people banned a couple of years ago?

Cathode_Reborn · Sep 11, 2008, 07:12 PM // 19:12

We finally managed to kill Mallyx last night:

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Originally Posted by Warriorsrmint

Isn't that kinda what got people banned a couple of years ago?

You're probably thinking about the "secret" DoA outpost for Dev testing that let players go straight to Mallyx without finishing the rest. Stuff like the door glitch is harmless, but people had to mess with some system files in order to get into that Dev room, and that was pretty serious.

Cyb3r · Sep 11, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16

@ kotte yes i know there is alot of AoE there but it's the double knockdown in HM i prefer in that build and atm it's still in testing i'm changing the skills now and then around, i'll have to recheck the build since the changes of glowstone.

But i usually tend to have a minnion wall up i cast the ward really close to the minnions and then i start using the aoe and start disabling key chars to the enemy team with my hero ranger
(shutdown on monks is still great, however some added knockdown which is autocaused in hm with churning earth)

For hm i tend to hate to play a fire ele since the damage is mediocre compared to a mesmer or a necro both having access to armor ignoring damage)

And if you do have improvements for my build in HM (i never used it Nm mind you, got a mindblast build for that) i would like to hear them kotte.

Warriorsrmint · Sep 12, 2008, 04:50 PM // 16:50

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Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn

We finally managed to kill Mallyx last night:

You're probably thinking about the "secret" DoA outpost for Dev testing that let players go straight to Mallyx without finishing the rest. Stuff like the door glitch is harmless, but people had to mess with some system files in order to get into that Dev room, and that was pretty serious.

Ah ok i knew it was something like that and atleast youlet us se what professions you used :d.

Itchy4444 · Sep 12, 2008, 11:48 PM // 23:48

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Originally Posted by romeus petrus

Mallyx himself is not that hard if u know how to use the door glitch.

I was wondering is this the door glitch they took off right before gwen? or is it something else? I'm pretty sure the original door glitch was updated wasn't it. Also is it possible for you to age that run?

~Grogs~ · Sep 13, 2008, 12:08 AM // 00:08

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Originally Posted by Itchy4444

I was wondering is this the door glitch they took off right before gwen? or is it something else? I'm pretty sure the original door glitch was updated wasn't it.

If you leave the Titan in the last wave until last, as soon as it breaks down the priest will give the message to kill Mallyx. Go into the door to Mallyx's chamber before the Titan spawns are killed, then the chamber door remains open, and you can move outside.

You can then pull Mallyx outside the chamber to kill him, bypassing the spirit effects and avoiding the spawns.

Senrath · Sep 13, 2008, 03:13 AM // 03:13

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Originally Posted by Itchy4444

I was wondering is this the door glitch they took off right before gwen? or is it something else? I'm pretty sure the original door glitch was updated wasn't it. Also is it possible for you to age that run?

I think the glitch you're referring to would be the NT/Rebirth glitch. People would go in, die on the gate, have one person with Necrotic Transversal and Rebirth use NT to glitch across the gate, and rez everyone on the other side. To prevent this Mallyx's skill that forces players to shadow step to him now pulls people through the gate if they're on the other side.

Itchy4444 · Sep 13, 2008, 05:46 AM // 05:46

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Originally Posted by Senrath

I think the glitch you're referring to would be the NT/Rebirth glitch. People would go in, die on the gate, have one person with Necrotic Transversal and Rebirth use NT to glitch across the gate, and rez everyone on the other side. To prevent this Mallyx's skill that forces players to shadow step to him now pulls people through the gate if they're on the other side.

Not really, what i was referring to is having a E/N Air Ele that make a Flesh Golem and letting it die by gate. I believe we used to have a Mo/N NT and Rebirth everyone over. But anyways. Thanks for the reply

dark_slayer · Oct 05, 2008, 12:09 PM // 12:09

Updated guide, now has proven builds for all professions enjoy.

TheodenKing · Feb 24, 2009, 11:33 PM // 23:33

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Originally Posted by cyvil

A suggestion for the monk - do not use lightbringer signet. It works as advertised, but requires a trip to the front lines to gain the energy. The 100 to 300 HP lost was generally not worth the energy gained. Channeling (Big groups and all) may be better than LB Sig or GoLE, as it has a wider AoE, but I will have to try that on another trip.

If your monk uses Blessed insignias on all pieces, and uses a shield, you will find more success in DoA, both NM and HM. In our testing, for some reason a shield mattered more than the total armor value as far as whether you are targeted.

Anyway... [Channeling] and [Lightbringer Signet] have similar risks. An experienced monk can use either effectively.